Will Those Who Never Heard Be "Saved"?

  

(This post started out as an answer to a video somebody posted asking the question above. I began to type and moved it here) 

 

I think the issue that arises with this question, in my opinion is this: What does "being saved" mean. If we are talking about just avoiding hell, an eternal fire of suffering and pain as we have been taught it is, then they would have to be saved from that. But, if being saved, born again which is really a better description, means far more than being saved from a lake of fire, then the real answer is God only knows.

We are not the judge of such things. I am not going to make a final judgement on the eternal destination of a whole nation of people who were born behind a gate of darkness and evil. If you are so confident that you can.... well good luck with that.

 Being born again isn't just being saved from hell. It is far more than that and has far more implications for The World we now live in and The World to come. We are taken from The Kingdom of Darkness and born anew into The Kingdom of God. The Kingdom is within us. When Jesus said unless a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of Heaven (The Kingdoms of God). He wasn't talking about a heaven we go to when we die. He was talking about The Kingdom that is very real right now, alive and active in everyone born of The Spirit. 

 The Kingdom of Heaven has always been all around us, more real than this world. Man didn't have direct access to That Kingdom until Jesus accomplished His Work. The Kingdom that was being revealed, demonstrated and taught by Jesus, His Life and His Disciples is open to all that believe in thier heart and confess with thier mouth Jesus is Lord. We not only have access to The Kingdom of Heaven RIGHT NOW, we are living, operating and have our entire being in That Kingdom.

 We take that Gospel into all The World so The Kingdom of God can be spread into all The World in those that believe. We go into The Kingdom of Darkness and through us, by preaching The Gospel of The Kingdom, God translates people from The Kingdom of Darkness into The Kingdom of God. For what purpose? To just save them from Hell? No, so that through us and them, Jesus can continue His work of undoing all the works of the devil, in every nation tongue and tribe. To spread across the world The Knowledge of The Glory of The Lord. To make every enemy His Footstool.

 Therein lies where much of The Church for the last 1800 or so years has missed it. We have preached the wisdom of man instead of The Gospel of The Kingdom in Power and Demonstrations of The Spirit. We have, for the most part, except for The Remnant, preached a powerless, mixed message. Having a form of Godliness but denying the power of God.

 Back to the question. I will put it bluntly as what the question is really asking.

Will those who have never heard, and maybe already living a life of hell on earth as a result of The Kingdom of Darkness ruling where they live, die and suffer eternally in torment and pain. I have to say I believe The Work of Christ was enough for them. I believe that even if Jesus must stop time as we know it, in the last millisecond that they are still in thier body, He will do so, reveal Himself to them and through Him THEY WILL BE SAVED.

 Someone will ask, "Why bother sending missionaries out then. Let’s just make sure they never hear it; more will be saved then".

 That kind of "question" comes from a very narrow belief of The Work of Christ and The Church's call to bring The Message of The Kingdom into all the world. If it is just to save people from a fiery lake where there is eternal screaming and suffering, of souls who don’t even know where they are or how they got there, then Jesus didn't accomplish a whole lot.

 There is so much more Glory, Power and eternal impact that we have not only in this world now, but in the one to come, when we fully engage The Great Commission in Power and Demonstrations of The Spirit.

 We are empowered, when we follow His Spirit and His Plan to be His Joint Heirs. Heirs to what? The Nations. It is written about The Messiah; I will give you the nations as your inheritance. What did Jesus command us and commission us to do? Go into all NATIONS, take authority over the darkness there, demonstrate authority over the darkness there and preach to them The Gospels of The Kingdom. Then to make disciples in those nations so they can demonstrate The Kingdom they were just born into.

 This is why The Five-Fold Ministry is so important. We need Covenant Teams of The Apostles, Prophets, Evangelist Pastors and Teachers establishing churches in all nations. Not just churches though. NT Churches that move in The Power of The Spirit and that are filled with believers that know thier Kingdom Authority and Gifts, so they can Demonstrate The Kingdom that is in them and all around them through Jesus. Churches that are built upon the solid foundation and revelation of The Word of God and the revelations of Jesus Christ.  Upon this Rock Jesus builds His Church and the gates of hell cannot prevail against it.  

We have been so misdirected over past 40 years about what The Church should be and look like. It is so sad that we have traded the true riches of The Kingdom and The True Gospel of The Kingdom for a silly, prosperity driven, politically poisoned, and media driven personality gospel. 

Mark 16:17-20 New King James Version

17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they[ will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

19 So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. 20 And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen.

Hebrews 10:12-18 New Living Translation

12 But our High Priest offered himself to God as a single sacrifice for sins, good for all time. Then he sat down in the place of honor at God’s right hand. 13 There he waits until his enemies are humbled and made a footstool under his feet. 14 For by that one offering he forever made perfect those who are being made holy.

15 And the Holy Spirit also testifies that this is so. For he says, 16 “This is the new covenant I will make with my people on that day, says the Lord: I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds.”

17 Then he says, “I will never again remember their sins and lawless deeds.”  18 And when sins have been forgiven, there is no need to offer any more sacrifices.

 If He isn’t confirming our words in the way He Promised and Demonstrated, you can be sure He didn’t lie. You can be sure we have missed it big time. We have taken Him and His Message lightly, preached it wrongly or mixed it with poison that He cannot confirm.

We may have been empowered now and then to lay hands on a few sick people and see them recover but don’t mistake that for The Power of The Gospel. Jesus was not happy with those results, yet we make that the pinnacle of moving in The Spirit. 

 Time to cut the tethers of the poisoned Roman Pagan Church once and for all. Cut every false doctrine and mindset that has plagued The Church since Constantine and the unbelief of those in Galilee that couldn’t see beyond what they could see with thier eyes in order to see The Kingdom in Jesus. It is time to bury the lies that somehow wealth and happiness is our goal. It is time to change the thinking that acceptance and relevance is our goal at any cost, even to letting pagan idols and lies into our doctrine. It is time to put to death the lies that political connection and power is a worthy replacement or place of equality for The Power of The Spirit.

 The whole foul system that spread a False Gospel though political, monetary and military strength has hidden quietly, even in our so called non-denominational spirit filled churches, and we have seen it infesting them over the past 40 years. Fully revealing itself over the past 4 years. So much so that I think some of my brothers and sisters in Christ would condone Christian Armies marching once again with sword to force conversions on those they see as inferior or savage, if given the full backing of the government and thier politically driven leaders. They spread a false gospel then, when they invaded nations and overpowered the people with sword and bribery to "save them from hell", and they spread a false gospel now, same spirits, not of God. That is not The Gospel of The Kingdom.

Wait until you see, very soon, how far we have missed it. The Lord is about to fully reveal His Kingdom again, through His appointed and anointed sons and daughters. It is going to look nothing like we have ever seen. It will shock many, offend some and completely change The Church forever. However, the hard hearted will not be able to attack it, because The Lord will be glorified, and He will be confirming our word with accompanying signs and wonders. 

 His Church will grow, The Word will prevail and the whole world will be filled with the Knowledge of The Glory of God. He will demonstrate His Manifold Wisdom through The Church to all principalities and powers, both seen and unseen. You will see massive ministries, liquidate all thier holdings, including personal mansions and stolen Kingdom wealth, in order to spread The True Gospel and establish, supply or re-establish churches throughout The World.

And with that. I will let The Lord show whether the things I have written are true. Let me be a liar and The Lord be True if I am in error. 

 

David's Mighty Men! The Lord's Mighty Chosen!

   

I used to let people who ignored me or treated me as an after thought really impact my life and emotions. Now I honestly feel bad for them. I know The Lord will still bless them abundantly and I pray He does. But, they just don't know what they missed by choosing degrees, boards and pedigrees over covenant relationship with people who would have been like David's Mighty Men of Valor to them. Maybe those men were not "safe people" as much as others, but They were Gods Chosen to stand with David. They were anointed and called out from among the people for a purpose they wouldn't fully understand until Gods Plan began to unfold. Imagine if David would have had an HR Rep and Board at the door of the cave checking the men's pedigrees and degrees. making them prove themselves first before entering with David.

Reminds me of those who Jesus called to walk with Him and whom He sat and ate with. Those who He called out from among the world that left all to join Him. They to did not know what it all meant until Gods Plan began to unfold. Not many mighty men, distinguished men or women. They were fisherman, tax collectors, some with tempers and bad mouths. Prostitutes, drinkers of wine. Men he had to correct for thier outburst but never cast away or kept down because they were not safe and would tarnish His reputation.

If you look at the story of those who gathered in Cave of Adullam with David and those who gathered around Jesus, you will see some parallels. Not only in the personalities and backgrounds, but the exploits they would do as they went forth and battled for their King.

1 Samuel 22 New King James Version

1 David therefore departed from there and escaped to the cave of Adullam. So when his brothers and all his father’s house heard it, they went down there to him. 2 And everyone who was in distress, everyone who was in debt, and everyone who was discontented gathered to him. So he became captain over them. And there were about four hundred men with him.

2 Samuel 23:8-17 New King James Version

8 These are the names of the mighty men whom David had: Josheb-Basshebeth the Tachmonite, chief among the captains. He was called Adino the Eznite, because he had killed eight hundred men at one time. 9 And after him was Eleazar the son of [c]Dodo, the Ahohite, one of the three mighty men with David when they defied the Philistines who were gathered there for battle, and the men of Israel had retreated. 10 He arose and attacked the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand stuck to the sword. The Lord brought about a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to plunder. 11 And after him was Shammah the son of Agee the Hararite. The Philistines had gathered together into a troop where there was a piece of ground full of lentils. So the people fled from the Philistines. 12 But he stationed himself in the middle of the field, defended it, and killed the Philistines. So the Lord brought about a great victory.

13 Then three of the thirty chief men went down at harvest time and came to David at the cave of Adullam. And the troop of Philistines encamped in the Valley of Rephaim. 14 David was then in the stronghold, and the garrison of the Philistines was then in Bethlehem. 15 And David said with longing, “Oh, that someone would give me a drink of the water from the well of Bethlehem, which is by the gate!” 16 So the three mighty men broke through the camp of the Philistines, drew water from the well of Bethlehem that was by the gate, and took it and brought it to David. Nevertheless he would not drink it, but poured it out to the Lord. 17 And he said, “Far be it from me, O Lord, that I should do this! Is this not the blood of the men who went in jeopardy of their lives?” Therefore he would not drink it.   These things were done by the three mighty men.

   

                         

Notice who began to gather around Jesus and who Jesus said He came to seek 

Luke 15:1-7 New King James Version

15 Then all the tax collectors and the sinners drew near to Him to hear Him. 2 And the Pharisees and scribes complained, saying, “This Man receives sinners and eats with them.” 3 So He spoke this parable to them, saying:

4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ 7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.

Even when He did sit down and eat with the religious hierarchy of the day. There was this lesson....... 

Luke 7:36-50 New King James Version

36 Then one of the Pharisees asked Him to eat with him. And He went to the Pharisee’s house, and sat down to eat. 37 And behold, a woman in the city who was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at the table in the Pharisee’s house, brought an alabaster flask of fragrant oil, 38 and stood at His feet behind Him weeping; and she began to wash His feet with her tears, and wiped them with the hair of her head; and she kissed His feet and anointed them with the fragrant oil. 39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited Him saw this, he spoke to himself, saying, “This Man, if He were a prophet, would know who and what manner of woman this is who is touching Him, for she is a sinner.”

40 And Jesus answered and said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.”

So he said, “Teacher, say it.”

41 “There was a certain creditor who had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. 42 And when they had nothing with which to repay, he freely forgave them both. Tell Me, therefore, which of them will love him more?”

43 Simon answered and said, “I suppose the one whom he forgave more.”

And He said to him, “You have rightly judged.” 44 Then He turned to the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave Me no water for My feet, but she has washed My feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head. 45 You gave Me no kiss, but this woman has not ceased to kiss My feet since the time I came in. 46 You did not anoint My head with oil, but this woman has anointed My feet with fragrant oil. 47 Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little.”

48 Then He said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”

49 And those who sat at the table with Him began to say to themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?”

50 Then He said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you. Go in peace.”

And Jesus demonstrated His Might then sent His Mighty Men out to battle in the same way. 

Matthew 10:7-8 New King James Version

7 And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.

Acts 10:34-41 New King James Version

34 Then Peter opened his mouth and said: “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. 35 But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him. 36 The word which God sent to the children of Israel, preaching peace through Jesus Christ—He is Lord of all— 37 that word you know, which was proclaimed throughout all Judea, and began from Galilee after the baptism which John preached: 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which He did both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem, whom they killed by hanging on a tree. 40 Him God raised up on the third day, and showed Him openly, 41 not to all the people, but to witnesses chosen before by God, even to us who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead.

Matthew 11:1-6 New King James Version

11 Now it came to pass, when Jesus finished commanding His twelve disciples, that He departed from there to teach and to preach in their cities.

2 And when John had heard in prison about the works of Christ, he [a]sent two of his disciples 3 and said to Him, “Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?”

4 Jesus answered and said to them, “Go and tell John the things which you hear and see: 5 The blind see and the lame walk; the lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear; the dead are raised up and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.”

Luke 17:11-14 New King James Version

11 Now it happened as He went to Jerusalem that He passed through the midst of Samaria and Galilee. 12 Then as He entered a certain village, there met Him ten men who were lepers, who stood afar off. 13 And they lifted up their voices and said, “Jesus, Master, have mercy on us!”

14 So when He saw them, He said to them, “Go, show yourselves to the priests.” And so it was that as they went, they were cleansed.

Matthew 9 New King James Version

9 So He got into a boat, crossed over, and came to His own city. 2 Then behold, they brought to Him a paralytic lying on a bed. When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Son, be of good cheer; your sins are forgiven you.”

3 And at once some of the scribes said within themselves, “This Man blasphemes!”

4 But Jesus, knowing their thoughts, said, “Why do you think evil in your hearts? 5 For which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Arise and walk’? 6 But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”—then He said to the paralytic, “Arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.” 7 And he arose and departed to his house.

8 Now when the multitudes saw it, they marveled and glorified God, who had given such power to men.

Matthew the Tax Collector

9 As Jesus passed on from there, He saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax office. And He said to him, “Follow Me.” So he arose and followed Him.

10 Now it happened, as Jesus sat at the table in the house, that behold, many tax collectors and sinners came and sat down with Him and His disciples. 11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to His disciples, “Why does your Teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

12 When Jesus heard that, He said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. 13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”

Jesus Is Questioned About Fasting

14 Then the disciples of John came to Him, saying, “Why do we and the Pharisees fast [c]often, but Your disciples do not fast?”

15 And Jesus said to them, “Can the friends of the bridegroom mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them? But the days will come when the bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast. 16 No one puts a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment; for [e]the patch pulls away from the garment, and the tear is made worse. 17 Nor do they put new wine into old wineskins, or else the wineskins break, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But they put new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved.”

A Girl Restored to Life and a Woman Healed

18 While He spoke these things to them, behold, a ruler came and worshiped Him, saying, “My daughter has just died, but come and lay Your hand on her and she will live.” 19 So Jesus arose and followed him, and so did His disciples.

20 And suddenly, a woman who had a flow of blood for twelve years came from behind and touched the hem of His garment. 21 For she said to herself, “If only I may touch His garment, I shall be made well.” 22 But Jesus turned around, and when He saw her He said, “Be of good cheer, daughter; your faith has made you well.” And the woman was made well from that hour.

23 When Jesus came into the ruler’s house, and saw the flute players and the noisy crowd wailing, 24 He said to them, “Make room, for the girl is not dead, but sleeping.” And they ridiculed Him. 25 But when the crowd was put outside, He went in and took her by the hand, and the girl arose. 26 And the report of this went out into all that land.

Two Blind Men Healed

27 When Jesus departed from there, two blind men followed Him, crying out and saying, “Son of David, have mercy on us!”

28 And when He had come into the house, the blind men came to Him. And Jesus said to them, “Do you believe that I am able to do this?”

They said to Him, “Yes, Lord.”

29 Then He touched their eyes, saying, “According to your faith let it be to you.” 30 And their eyes were opened. And Jesus sternly warned them, saying, “See that no one knows it.” 31 But when they had departed, they [g]spread the news about Him in all that country.

A Mute Man Speaks

32 As they went out, behold, they brought to Him a man, mute and demon-possessed. 33 And when the demon was cast out, the mute spoke. And the multitudes marveled, saying, “It was never seen like this in Israel!”

34 But the Pharisees said, “He casts out demons by the ruler of the demons.”

The Compassion of Jesus

35 Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. 36 But when He saw the multitudes, He was moved with compassion for them, because they were weary and scattered, like sheep having no shepherd. 37 Then He said to His disciples, “The harvest truly is plentiful, but the laborers are few. 38 Therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.”

Acts 5:12-20 New Living Translation

12 And through the hands of the apostles many signs and wonders were done among the people. And they were all with one accord in Solomon’s Porch. 13 Yet none of the rest dared join them, but the people esteemed them highly.

14 Yet more and more people believed and were brought to the Lord—crowds of both men and women. 15 As a result of the apostles’ work, sick people were brought out into the streets on beds and mats so that Peter’s shadow might fall across some of them as he went by. 16 Crowds came from the villages around Jerusalem, bringing their sick and those possessed by evil spirits, and they were all healed.

17 The high priest and his officials, who were Sadducees, were filled with jealousy. 18 They arrested the apostles and put them in the public jail. 19 But an angel of the Lord came at night, opened the gates of the jail, and brought them out. Then he told them, 20 “Go to the Temple and give the people this message of life!”

Acts 19:11-20 New King James Version

11 Now God worked unusual miracles by the hands of Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs or aprons were brought from his body to the sick, and the diseases left them and the evil spirits went out of them. 13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, “We exorcise you by the Jesus whom Paul preaches.” 14 Also there were seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, who did so.

15 And the evil spirit answered and said, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?”

16 Then the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, overpowered them, and prevailed against [d]them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. 17 This became known both to all Jews and Greeks dwelling in Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified. 18 And many who had believed came confessing and telling their deeds. 19 Also, many of those who had practiced magic brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted up the value of them, and it totaled fifty thousand pieces of silver. 20 So the word of the Lord grew mightily and prevailed.

Many were faithful unto death. They will receive a Glorious Resurrection!